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He wants to oust Gov. Pat McCrory from office, but he’ll have to get past fellow Democrat and presumed gubernatorial candidate Roy Cooper before he can take on McCrory. Host Donna Martinez talks with Democrat Ken Spaulding, a Durham attorney and former state legislator, about his quest for his party’s nomination, his view that Republicans have taken the state in the wrong direction, and his disagreements with the Attorney General Cooper. Then we turn to the continued debate over what constitutes a fair and competitive election map. Martinez talks with Jane Pinsky of the North Carolina Coalition for Lobbying and Government Reform about a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision on the subject of redistricting. Pinsky explains the Arizona decision, the indirect implications it has for North Carolina, and why it is so difficult to convince the political party in charge -- Democrats or Republicans – to give up the power to draw districts to an independent commission. Next is a look the controversy over which of the nearly 20 presidential candidates will make it into network television debates. Paul Bedard of the Washington Examiner tells Martinez why some of the GOP candidates are unhappy and why it will be tougher for some to increase their name recognition. That’s followed by remarks from Gov. Pat McCrory about his proposal to put two bond packages on the November ballot, and what he most appreciates about being governor. He made his comments to Don Curtis on a recent edition of Carolina Newsmakers.